Thorley enjoyed reading your article on Barrel Life. I think I over cooked the cream of wheat. At this point we can say that it has reached the end of its barrel life, and seek a replacement. 3450-3475fps would seem to be a really excellent place to operate with an 80gr weight class bullet. But I am interested in this apparent incongruity. Or even better, compare it to the 220 swift! Like most modern cartridges with minimum taper and 30-degree shoulders, the .22 Creedmoor is set up with long throats and fast twist barrels to handle bullets as heavy as 95 grains, pushing them as fast as 3,000 fps. Nothing changes..heavy vs super light! Anyone try the custom whiddens? For those wanting to know more about the .22 Creedmoor, check out this video we put together for you below! There are a number of things that a shooter can do to reduce barrel wear. Almost all fell in their tracks. In reality, I think that number is way over whats needed with good shot placement. Ive used the same round on whitetail deer and inside of 100 yards it takes them off their feet and they never know what hit them. I love that gun..I have NEVER shot it..but I love it anyway! It A MAGPUL magazine well kit was added. Bolt Face & Action Database - LoadDevelopment.com, Why The 6.5 Creedmoor Is The Best Overall Cartridge, Cartridge Reloading Shell Holder Reference Chart. . $65.75. Just as they were done, Loki, disguised as a fly, bit Sindri on the elbow causing all 6.5 barrels forged to wear out at 4000 rounds but be extremely accurate It's a precision rifle caliber and whether it's hunting ammo, target ammo, or long range ammo, it's all match grade kind of stuff. Please keep this thread to actual reloading information, and if you can please post some round count, barrel life numbers are all over the place. I ran the numbers on the 45-70 I carried to Africa last year. Your observation sounds spot on. Regardless of who the actual pioneer was, the caliber was created, and with it, possibly the all-time best 22 caliber rifle cartridge ever. The 22 Creedmoor ballistics, beating out those of the .22-250 and many other fast .224 caliber cartridges, are what is drawing more people towards this cartridge lately. So, the 22-250 would have slightly better life than 243, but close enough to not be a deciding factor at all, the 6.5 Creedmoor will have MUCH better life than these 2. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! Required fields are marked *. To put it into context, a credit card is around 0.032" thick, so the amount of erosion we're talking about over the life of a barrel is barely more . Both are 26. Research shows that recommendations range from 800 ft-lbs to 1300 ft-lbs. The above load results show us the following: Some other methods of increasing a barrels life and reducing throat erosion are as follows: Barrel life is monitored by keeping a record of all shots fired through each barrel. but part of the reason is because I could only get a head on shot to the chest. Want to become an expert on reloading, or just gain the knowledge needed to get started, here is a list of the best reloading books available. Our one member has personally taken a large Zebra stallion with a 22 Creedmoor, shooting a Hornady 75gr ELD-Match bullet at around 3650fps, with a well-placed clean head shot as can be seen below, with a tiny entrance and quarter sized exit wound, and blood streaming out the ear showing a good brain expansion. Watch below as the kill is only thanks to the speed of the 22 Creedmoor, and another split second of air time would have been too long. Some specifically concentrate on varmint hunting, or coyote hunting, while others concentrate on high volume deer hunting or major game like elk and moose. Everyone I know that uses one considers it to be a 50-150 yard gun, at best! This puts it in the .243 Winchester class for punch. Everyone is in the .45 ACP vs the tiny 9mm for a couple of years..then they ALL switch to the side of the deeper hitting 9mm! Getting quality headstamped brass with no fire forming is what sets the 22 creedmoor apart from the 250ai. The same user claimed in another post comment on 29 October 2013 that GA Precision built his 22 Creedmoor rifle more than a year and a half earlier, which if true would make their 22 Creedmoor rifle the first one created in early half of 2012, possibly unlikely as the same user was still asking about a custom 22-250 action rifle and mag feeding ammo out of it in a 13 December 2012 post, showing that it has possibly not been made by then yet. Accuracy was still good enough that I shot the only perfect score with it. The area of the chamber just forward of the web on the original [] Ammo, We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to amazon.com and affiliated sites. I believe it will gain a true following like it's big brothers. These cartridges include (from left) the .22-250 Remington, .22 Creedmoor and .22-250 Ackley Improved. The Kimber K6 Deep Cover The Snubnose for Today. A chronograph for example, mostly only a rare expensive piece of laboratory technology a few decades ago, is now part of almost every precision shooter and reloaders equipment, and a very affordable one at that. I'm currently shooting a rifle I built with a Bartlein 1:7.7 twist M24 taper with a Brownells Stryker Ridge action (made by Defiance) in a Manners EH1. This would make him the first documented person to suggest a 22 Creedmoor cartridge on record. Leaning toward the more conservative number of 1300 ft-lbs, the same 22 CM bullets combinations are good out to 300- 400 yards. It was released in 2007 by Hornady and Creedmoor Sports. I moved a couple of years ago..I sorted through hundreds of gun magazines, its all the same. We strive to send out a newsletter each month to show new products, updates to the site, and give updates on what we have planned. I will try again later using faster burning powders but for now back to the proven. The Creedmoor gets its longrange performance reputation from a combination of 140- to 143-grain, high B.C. There is also 22 Creedmoor SRP brass available offering small rifle primer holes for shooters preferring small rifle primers. At 7000 grains per pound and my "normal load" being 42.2 grains. You can also neck 6mm Creedmoor down to 22cal easy enough. As your barrel starts to reach the end of its accurate lifespan, you may notice that bullet seating depth gradually increases, while group sizes enlarge and precision degrades. If they can, velocities are so low they arent practical. The 22 Creedmoor or 22CM as some call it, was bound to happen at some point as almost every new caliber or cartridge created, gets necked down to a wildcat with a lighter bullet for more speed at some point in time, however the exact person to first do it is still to be confirmed. Even "shot-out" barrels in an infamous barrel burner like the 220 Swift are usually in excellent condition at the cooler muzzle end. As a 450 yard deer cartridge. I presume the Alpha brass is good too. The Creedmoor has a maximum SAAMI pressure of 62,000 psi and the PRC has a max pressure of 65,000 psi. Thats some great information, i figure my barrel will be lucky to make it to 1000rds, 800-1000 seems to be a trend, Im running test with the 4831sc this weekend, and I think I low balled myself compared to those loads you posted, we will see, once again thanks for contributing, this really is one bad ass round. The 22 Creedmoor is a wildcat caliber you get by necking down a 6.5mm Creedmoor to .22 cal. The cartridge and rifle perform well with my handloads or the factory available ammunition. Features & Specifications Remington 700 Action, Cylindrically Ground (Converted to Side Bolt Release) Rail Screw Threads Opened Up to 8/40 (Action Re-Blued) Shilen Alternut Installed BDL, Accepts Standard AICS 3901 & 3902 Magazines 26" Shilen Match Barrel (4 Groove Rachet Rifling) Twist: 1:7.5 Chambered by Shilen in 22 Creedmoor Your email address will not be published. I've been waiting for it to be in stock, I have some of their 6 Creedmoor brass and it's good stuff. Ive done a few and personally shoot mine with the following please be advised this is my load and my rifle safe max.. start lower and work up please. .22-250. I know that huge advances in rifles has taken place since the 1970s. Due to supply and demand, some barrels may take longer than others to receive. But that's not the main selling point. I took many deer with that rifle with an 87gr. You guys all using 6 Creedmoor dies with different bushings? I have to say, the best part about shooting the Meredith 22 CM is that its just fun to shoot. Here is a brief summary of the cartridge. This was a super accurate load but rather slow for this cartridge. Home What is my Rifles [Accurate] Barrel Life Expectancy? The 22, not-so-obvious to some and obvious to others, stands for the bore diameter of the barrel, more specifically actually a .224 or 5.7mm bullet diameter. One of the easiest ways is to select a cartridge load that does not necessarily produce the fastest muzzle velocity, but rather considers barrel life versus effective range and stopping power; settling on a favourable compromise. Mason? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Sad. starting my build and have decided on this caliber. The oldest mention and claim of a rifle chambered in 22 Creedmoor, is a comment made on 24 October 2013 on a SnipersHide post where user KYS claims to have suggested a 223 bullet faster with more reliable feeding and George Gardner of GA Precision and Josh Lapin of Copper Creek Ammo joked about the 22 Creedmoor, and this comment was in response to the post highlighting the image on GA Precisions Facebook page showing a 22 Creedmoor earlier the same day. These general guidelines apply more to the older traditional calibers when speeds were much lower, and with modern cartridge advances, the velocities achieved by modern smaller calibers make up for the energy lost in mass of the bullet, and the modern twist rates allows low drag bullets to carry those velocities and energy further down range. Now we have Alpha Munitions producing factory 22 Creedmoor brass, and the stage is set for a complete takeover of the big 22cal scene. You could even use 6.5mm brass, it would simply take more work to neck down. Heavy bullets are. In fact, I compared wound tracks in ballistics gel and it was virtually indistinguishable from a 168 gr ballistic tip from a 30-06. This is not true, but rather it is a calculation used to estimate the point at which accuracy will noticeably decline, which may be a steady and slow yet progressive declination if precautionary measures are taken. Then along comes the new Creedmore offerings and the shooting world makes me feel like time has passed me by. I thought that might be the case just wanted to confirm. Anyone else running 90 berger or 95 sierra? Note: the following data does not necessarily demonstrate the most accurate load (or node), but rather demonstrates how barrel wear can be reduced by altering the propellant load. The TSXs in my experience have been overperformers, big time.